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Fun With Numbers

Early trending numbers have Brock vs. the other guy doing 1.25 million on PPV, which is above the Mayweather/Mosley number (1.1 M). This is a very, very early number and it may not hold up to that level (or it may be an undercount, though that’s less likely) but if it does, it may be an interesting historical mark. If Pacquiao/Mayweather is made this year it will be easily the #1 overall show by far; if not, then that’s two consecutive years that UFC will have produced the biggest show of the year and the first time they’ll have done it without a one-time-only gimmick like UFC 100. It used to be that UFC dominated the top 10 but boxing produced the top 2 or 2 of the top 3; now even that is fading away.


July 6, 2010 - Posted by | Boxing, MMA


  1. Where do any of the WWE pay-per-views fall into the rankings? I figured Wrestlemania would at least make a blip on the map.

    Comment by DrHogie | July 6, 2010 | Reply

  2. I’m of the belief that all this is a great sign for boxing, and not bad. Every year several boxing PPVs are doing more than 500,000. Late 90s, early 2000s, that would only happen for ODLH. I firmly believe that MMA has only helped to make boxing more popular. People that maybe moved away are becoming re-acclimated to their blood lusts.

    My concern with the UFC is this: Brock is a MASSIVE draw. He transcends MMA. But, all those people who have been slowly coming onto the bandwagon, are they going to keep forking out dough for GSP, Silva, Penn etc. after several boring cards in a row? UFC 116 was AMAZING, top to bottom, but most every other PPV this year has been solid at best, abysmal at worst.

    I wonder if this is similar to the Tyson years, where they will only fork it over if Brock is murdering someone on the card. It’s not there, but the UFC needs to start having more entertaining cards like this. Strikeforce, from an entertainment perspective, has been whooping the UFCs arse this year. (Not really a fair comparison, though, because its far easier to put on five really entertaining shows than 2-3 shows a month…but maybe the UFC should start scaling back.)

    OK, back to work.

    Comment by Tony M | July 6, 2010 | Reply

  3. WWE consistently gets 100,000-ish for a B show, 250,000 or so for a Summerslam, Elimination Chamber, Royal Rumble, and maybe 1 million worldwide for wrestlemania/700,000 or 800,000 domestically. This year’s show actually was down to a half million domestically and 800,000ish worldwide I think.

    I hope you’re right on boxing’s popularity Tony, but I can only think of two boxing PPVs which have done serious business this year- Mayweather vs. Mosley (1.1) and Pacquiao/Clottey (700,000). Most of the other stuff- the Latin Furys and such- is somewhere below an average WWE show as I understand it. There’s basically two major draws who can be one gargantuan draw together, which is a 2-4 times a year business for 2 guys. Do you happen to know where I could get PPV business numbers historically for boxing?

    UFC on PPV is just mind-boggling. Since Brock’s debut several years ago they have managed to add new fans, and they clearly have several stars who can draw on their own- GSP did 800,000 vs. Dan Hardy for instance, BJ Penn and Andy Silva have both done 900,000+, Rashad vs. Rampage hit 1M etc. The really amazing thing is the B show numbers for shows without stars- unless they’re coming from outside the US or they have a REALLY bad card like Evans/Silva, their floor appears to be 300,000 a month. That kind of consistency-plus-peak is really unprecedented.

    Comment by theshipbesinking | July 6, 2010 | Reply

  4. Yup. While the Lesnar Effect is definitely there, there are also people who pay for almost anything with the UFC brand name (unless I miss my guess, not ALL of them are crazed MMA fans who will also watch Strikeforce, WEC, and/or two bums fighting in an alley). Then again, you have guys like my co-worker who don’t care about anyone who fights under 205 because he “doesn’t care about midgets fighting”.

    Still, you have both the people who will buy anything UFC plus the people who don’t give a shit about the undercard sucking as long as there are stars in the main event. That right there accounts for most of the floor, I think.

    I’m firmly in the latter camp, for what it’s worth. I find it hard to bring myself to give half a monkey shit about Bellator or half the WEC guys, even if they are in technically-awesome (or even just fun) fights.

    Comment by Sean | July 6, 2010 | Reply

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